i tried to play mass effect 1 today with a broshep
finally made him semi-attractive
then got into the game and couldn’t do it
femshep forever man
This is the kind of shit that just really gets to me and pisses me off. How can you support the gay and lesbian community but then not us? It’s not that difficult to go educate yourself on bisexuality and what it means, and it is really not that difficult to understand. This is not some crazy kinky thing that people choose to do. We’re not some crazy attention whores who are confused and don’t know what we want. Are there some people out there who are confused? Sure. Are there some annoying immature girls out there who just want attention? Sure. Are there bisexual people out there who are promiscuous and jump from one to the other constantly? There are. But that doesn’t give anyone the right to generalize and stereotype all bisexuals as one. You are pegging an entire community of people as something bad, and something not to be taken seriously or even considered “real”, based upon the few who give us a bad reputation.
Generalizing entire communities of people is wrong. Don’t sit there and think you know what kind of person I am because you once witnessed a couple 13 year old girls that claimed to be bi and made out with one another at a party. Those aren’t the faces of bisexuality and that kind of behavior certainly does not represent me or what it means to be bisexual. This is a STEREOTYPE. And it’s WRONG and should NEVER be used as some kind of evidence against why you do not support or accept an entire group/community of people.
Just admit that you are a close-minded and ignorant bigot.
This needs more notes.
And after that, people wonder why I take issue with Mass Effect players arguing that “Kaidan is straight in my play through, because I’ve never seen him pay attention to any of the male crew members before.”
JFC! Bisexuality or pansexuality doesn’t mean that you will find every single person you meet sexually attractive!
Especially if you’re bisexual (or pansexual) AND demisexual (a.k.a not sexually attracted to others without first establishing a strong emotional connection with them).
*Sigh*
Has it ever occurred to you that there simply might not be anyone (except Shepard) that Kaidan feels sexually attracted to on this ship? Including females (and no, mentioning that EDI is good looking doesn’t mean “I’d like to fuck her!”).
This has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation.
If you are a bisexual man that has never been in a relationship with another man before - and probably never will because you are now involved in a fully committed romantic and sexual relationship with a woman (for what you hope to be the rest of your life) - that doesn’t make you straight!
What it means, is that you are in a straight relationship. That you’ve only experienced straight relationships. And maybe, will only continue to exclusively experience straight relationships for the rest of your life.
But BISEXUALITY is still your sexual identity.
Your sexual identity, and the type of relationship you are in, are two completely different things.
I’ve only ever been in serious long-term relationships with men. And I hope and pray that I will get to spend the rest of my life with my current boyfriend… But if you still insist on calling me “straight” after I’ve revealed to you that I’m not “straight” but “pansexual”, I may have to fight the urge to punch you! Are we clear?
So why is this so difficult to understand that Kaidan can perfectly be in a stable, committed, loving, exclusive, heterosexual relationship - and never show interest in other men around him - with a bisexual orientation.
You want to decide that, in your play through, Kaidan’s always been in heterosexual relationships in the past, and has never been with any man before.
That’s fine. That’s perfect. That’s absolutely not offensive, it’s your game, and nothing’s stopping you.
You want to decide that the “gender neutral” doctor that he met on the Citadel while Shepard was dead was a woman.
Whatever rocks your boat, baby!
But arguing that the gender of the romantic or sexual partners he’s been with in the past is defining his sexual orientation - and that he can be labelled as straight in your play through because he’s never slept with other men before (and has only ever talked about a woman that he’s liked) - only shows a great deal of ignorance regarding what sexual orientation actually is.
And that goes for anyone trying to argue that Kaidan was always exclusively gay, too (ex: ‘cause he never slept with Rahna, so that attraction could only have been romantic in nature).
If my life partner was ever to tell me “Amélie, I’m going to choose to see you as a straight woman because you’ve never been in a relationship with another woman before, and now you’re in a straight relationship with me”, I’m sorry to say that this would be a deal breaker right there!
If you can’t love me as I am, and respect the fact that my sexual identity is pansexual, then I don’t want anything to do with you!
I’m not confused, I’m not trying to “find myself”, I’m not “in a phase”, my sexual orientation is not something you can modify or play with in order to suit your needs.
I just have the ability to fall in love and desire a person regardless of said person’s gender. Just like I don’t care what color your hair or your eyes are. That is all there is to it. It isn’t more complicated than that.
And sadly I won’t be sexually attracted to you if we don’t share an absolute trust and at the very least a deep friendship. I’m just wired that way. And I’d like people to respect that.
So really, if you claim to love Kaidan, I can’t understand why you can’t simply accept him as he is. The fact that Kaidan is not taking issue with Shepard’s gender if he falls in love with him or her doesn’t change who he is, nor his ability to remain fully committed and faithful to his partner.
It doesn’t take away the possibility of headcanoning that he’s always been in straight relationships in the past (and present). And might even only be in straight relationships in the future.
But refusing to acknowledge that Kaidan is officially a bisexual (or pansexual) character, is exactly the same as rejecting that character’s very identity.
And/or simply proving that you can’t imagine bisexuals or pansexuals as being fully satisfied by an heterosexual relationship, and entirely faithful partners.
It’s actually exactly the same as saying “No, Kaidan is not a biotic in my play through”.
His biotics and his sexual orientation are simply part of who he is and you can’t decide to change that aspect of him in the game. Unless, of course, you want to go AU.
In an AU setting, you can write stories where Kaidan is straight, or not a biotic if you wish to. But you have to be aware that you are changing the canon aspects of the character in order to do that.
And saying “Oh! I don’t mind if others, like a gay friend of mine, choose to see Kaidan as exclusively gay in their play through; but he’s still straight in mine.” doesn’t necessarily make you homophobic. But it makes you somewhat homo-apathetic.
It’s the whole “I don’t mind if gay men and women want to be together and marry. I just don’t want to have to see them kiss in public.”
a.k.a. I don’t mind what other people do, but I want no part in it.
It’s the difference between tolerating people of different sexual orientations, and fully accepting and including them as part of your community.
And truly, I don’t know which is worse. Being unable to tolerate that people can identify as being gay, lesbian, bisexual, asexual, etc.
Or simply not caring - not even making the effort of understanding what these sexual orientations truly imply.
So yeah, sorry for bringing back the subject of Kaidan’s sexual orientation again, but this post really made me realize why I was so hurt about the issue of Kaidan’s bisexuality (or pansexuality) being so casually brushed aside. And by both sides (a.k.a. players arguing that he can be seen as exclusively straight, and players arguing that he can be seen as exclusively gay in Mass Effect).
Bisexuality and pansexuality appear to make both a certain number of heterosexuals, gays, and lesbians uncomfortable (in large part because of a lack of understanding, I think), and I can only wish that the more we educate people regarding what bisexuality and pansexuality really is, the more we can successfully remedy to that.
We may be perceived as different… Freaks, even ( ; b )… But all there is to it is that a person’s gender doesn’t happen to be an important criteria for us when choosing a partner (although bisexuals will not be attracted to other genders than male or female).
Otherwise, we experience love, romance, and commitment exactly the same way. When you really take the time to think about it, you’ll find that there really is nothing to be uncomfortable about.
liara talking about having a hard time facing banshees because they’re her own people. welp. how do you think shep’s felt fighting husks since eden prime.
ME Babies play Red Rover. Lil’ Kirrahe holds the line.
i swear if bioware makes a spin-off mass effect game and the protag isn’t conrad verner then what is even the point i mean come on
friendly reminder that none of us had any idea of what we were getting ourselves into when we first played Mass Effect ✿◕‿◕✿
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Commander Shepard
2154-2186
She Saved The World
A Lot.
omg buffy reference?
JUMPS
THERE ARE NO TREES
SO SAYETH THE COUNCIL